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J2EE Journal: Article

"Fully Committed" - JBoss on J2EE Certification

"Fully Committed" - JBoss on J2EE Certification

(July 28, 2003) - (JBoss Group has just issued a statement regarding its position on J2EE certification. The entire text of the statement follows.)

"JBoss Group has gotten a number of requests for an update on the rumors swirling that JBoss and Sun are going to come to terms on J2EE Certification. Given the interest in our community, we wanted to provide an update.

JBoss Group would like to be clear that we are fully committed to doing this as long as it does not impact the JBoss open source community in terms of license restrictions or decrease in quality or innovation. In fact, we have committed significant resources to accommodate Sun's requests. In addition, JBoss has named a person (Bob Bickel, former GM of HP Middleware) to lead the discussions with Sun with a mission to complete a contract as soon as possible. Bob has previously negotiated J2EE Certification contracts while at Bluestone and HP with Sun.

While we can not estimate the timing of completion on this complex issue, we are hopeful of a positive resolution in the near term."

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patrick simpson 08/08/03 05:26:10 PM EDT

my company is looking at the sun one
under the J2EE

Carol 07/29/03 09:28:00 AM EDT

It would be good for JBOSS to finally get J2EE certified, this is good for the developer, for vendor independence, and portability.

Jack Frosch 07/29/03 08:53:00 AM EDT

I'd like to see JBoss certified as soon as possible. As long as it is not, those who would overcharge for core J2EE services (i.e. "plumbing") can create FUD about JBoss.

One major J2EE vendor used to charge $Thousands for a few admin screens sitting on top of Tomcat, the free Servlet container. When Tomcat became the reference implementation for Servlets/JSPs, everyone realized how little value they were actually buying.

Similarly, take the JBoss J2EE certification issue away, and these companies will no longer be able to sell basic J2EE servers for thousands of dollars.

Sadly, I think this is why the J2EE certification has been made so difficult and costly. It helps keep competition down and prices up. Anyone at the FTC listening?

Michael Moloney 07/29/03 08:27:00 AM EDT

I am in complete agreement with Fred Grott. I met Bob Bickel while he was at Bluestone and then HP. I feel confident that Bob will lead JBoss in the right direction. It woud be good if we could get this sooner rather than later, Mr. McNeally.

Fred Grott 07/28/03 09:48:00 PM EDT

Although I have never met Bob Bickel, I do know of his work at both Bluestoen and HP and feel JBoss made the correct choice appointing him the lead in talks with SUN concerning J2EE certification..

Bob, welcome to JBoss may your tiem spent there be rewarding and filed with awe..